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Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad joke about 'big atomic bomb'
Both leaders dismiss U.S. concerns about Iran's growing ties with Latin America

Publicado en: msnbc.com - 10 de Enero de 2012

 

CARACAS, Venezuela - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez lavished praise on each other on Monday, mocked U.S. disapproval and joked about having an atomic bomb at their disposal.

The fiery anti-U.S. ideologues have forged increasingly close ties between their fellow OPEC nations in recent years, although concrete projects have often lagged behind the rhetoric.

Both leaders dismissed U.S. concerns about Iran's intentions in the Middle East and its growing diplomatic links with Chavez and his allies in Latin America.

"They accuse us of being warmongers," Chavez said during a joint press conference. "They're the threat."

As he often does, the theatrical and provocative Chavez stuck his finger right into the global political sore spot, joking that a bomb was ready under a grassy knoll in front of his Miraflores palace steps.

"That hill will open up and a big atomic bomb will come out," he said, the two men laughing together.

Chavez accused the U.S. and its European allies of demonizing Iran and using false claims about the nuclear issue "like they used the excuse of weapons of mass destruction to do what they did in Iraq."

'Yankee imperialism'

Washington and other governments believe Iran is using the nuclear program to develop atomic weapons. Chavez and his allies back Iran in arguing the program is purely for peaceful purposes.

"One of the targets that Yankee imperialism has in its sights is Iran, which is why we are showing our solidarity," Chavez said. "When we meet, the devils go crazy," he added. mocking U.S. warnings that Latin American nations should not help the Islamic republic.

The Iranian leader is using the visit to tout relationships with some of his close friends shortly after the U.S. imposed tougher sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program.

As well as Venezuela, Ahmadinejad plans to visit Nicaragua, Cuba and Ecuador - a tour that Washington has said shows its "desperation" for friends.

Those nations' governments share Chavez's broad global views, but do not have Venezuela's economic clout and are unable to offer Iran any significant assistance.

Ahmadinejad dismissed the accusations about Iran's nuclear program in general terms."They say we're making (a) bomb," the Iranian leader said through an interpreter. "Fortunately, the majority of Latin American countries are alert. Everyone knows that those words... are a joke. It's something to laugh at."

"It's clear they're afraid of our development," Ahmadinejad said.

"President Chavez is the champion in the war on imperialism," he added.

Rising tensions

Regional economic powerhouse Brazil, which gave the Iranian leader a warm welcome when he visited during the previous government of Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, was notably absent from his agenda this time.

Ahmadinejad, who is subordinate to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on foreign policy and other matters, has said little about the rising tensions with the West, including the sentencing to death of an Iranian-American man for spying for the CIA. The United States denies that the man is a spy.

"The only bombs we're preparing are bombs against poverty, hunger and misery," added Chavez, saying Iranian constructors have built 14,000 new homes in Venezuela recently.

Ahead of hosting Ahmadinejad, Ecuador's government also offered moral support, pledging to ignore Western sanctions.

"We say with clarity that we do not accept those sanctions," Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters.

"We are a sovereign nation, we don't have dads punishing us and putting us in the corner for behaving badly. They (the U.S.) should instead be sanctioning the U.S. companies doing massive business in Tehran like Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola."

 
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1 Robson
2012-02-29
08:06:44 hrs. PDT

To Pirouz_2, I don't untsredand your objection to me shortening Ahmadinejad's name but whatever sensitive nerve I have touched, I apologize I will use his full name because I don't know what other abbreviations have special meaning to you.I appreciate your defense of Ahmadinejad, you like him and you are entitled to your opinion. I have no emotional stake.I don't enjoy discussions that are about wining rather than learning. Here is a sample quote from your writing: My friend, your view is shared by all those who voted for Mr. Mousavi, as well as all principalists who are against Ahmadinejad, that doesn?t mean that your views are right! This statement is a tautology! Even if 99.9% of Iranians agree with my views it does not make my views right. What is the point of writing patently obvious statements! And, this is not the only instance. I am not writing to win, I am hoping to learn something from you and from the discussion.However, it is useful to point out that the list of people who have criticized him is much more diverse. I have read that the influential business sector in Iran (Bazzar merchants) have criticized Ahmadinejad's economic policies, the former central bank head has done so, Khamenei has criticized him for personalizing the handling of the Nuclear issue, several parliament members have criticized him for too much corruption in his administration, a plurality of high-ranking senior clerics have criticized him, None of these make him wrong necessarily, it simply means that if one does a little unbiased homework one finds that a large and diverse group of people disagree with his policies.Nonetheless, you may suggest that he won by a majority of the votes and that he is popular. Be it as it may, Bush also won two elections but I did not consider him a good president.I take your point that my view of him as dogmatic and narrow minded is subjective measured against my reference value system. I doubt that you can prove him to be broad-minded! And, I think you are smart enough to realize that any exact elaboration can be countered. So, why are you asking for exact elaborations? Please outline the form of exact elaboration that would convince you of Ahmadinejad's dogmatic nature what form of proof?I also agree that independent leaders will be caricatured and demonized irrespective of who they are and how civil they may be. But Ahmadinejad is not the only independent leader in the world, or do you think he is? I don't completely get your last point what is a Dijn? But I think I get the jest of what you are trying to say. To say that certain countries in the west hate Ahmadinejad, so he must be good for Iran is an example of thinking in black and white dichotomies. Many issues in real life are not simple dichotomies, they are matters of shades, levels and degrees. We just may have to agree to disagree!
 

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